Kidney Stones
Kidney stones should be called kidney crystals. That’s what they are: crystals. and the keto diet and kidney stones do sometimes cross paths. Hold on. Don’t run away. Finish reading about the keto diet and kidney stones.
- THIS PROBLEM AFFECTS PATIENTS: 2-4 after their first ketone is made
- THIS PROBLEM LASTS UNTIL: the rapid weight loss stops. [The blood ketones along with the blood sugars are stable.]
The formation of these crystals deep inside the kidney starts with a tiny chemical attraction between two elements. Your kidney handles a huge volume of these elements every second.
If you want to begin making a kidney stone, the first step is to get dehydrated. Run low on water (dehydration) and the concentration of urine in your kidneys shoots way up. This concentrated waste flowing through your kidneys puts these crystallizing elements really close together. Voila! Your first crystal is made.
Next, you add one tiny element to that crystal every time your urine becomes concentrated. As you add one element after another, the crystal grows in size as does its power to attract even more elements. Maybe it takes you five years to build that crystal up to a speck. Maybe it takes you ten years. Unless you ‘melt’ your kidney stones away, you keep adding one tiny element after another. You can even grow multiple kidney stones at the same time.
Change Over Time
Over time, that crystallized spec turned into a tiny pebble. Then a stone. One awful day, that big crystal breaks away from the place where it grew. The crystal tumbles through your waterworks like a boulder. Each tumbler’s sharp edges cut and scrape through tissue causing one of life’s most excruciatingly painful experiences.
Making kidney stones is painless. No one can feel those tiny changes inside your kidney as the stone grows. Painlessly your stone collects more and more particles. If you want to grow those stones faster, add insulin to the system. A lot of insulin. A high insulin state leads to several changes that are GREAT for growing kidney stones.
If we use a super advanced imaging system to look into the kidneys of adults, almost every person has tiny little kidney stones. They are growing and shrinking all the time. The stones are either adding crystals or slowly melting away. This is constantly happening.
If your kidney bathes in crystal-growing chemicals, your stones will continue to grow. High sugar levels favor crystal growth. Ketones favor crystal melting. Ketosis shifts the body’s chemistry in the opposite direction of the high sugar state.
Does this mean ketosis will melt all the stones lurking in your kidneys? Not quite.
The good news: ketosis’ chemistry shift ensures your kidneys’ existing crystals stop growing. Indeed, some of those crystals can disappear over time.
The bad news: Your stone may dislodge before it dissolves.
How come?
When your body produces ketones, kidney stones’ crystals get removed one element at a time. We don’t get to choose which order the elements peel off of that crystal.
If you have a stone that has been there for years, your new keto-centered blood chemistry may whittle away at the base of the stone. This could set the big stone free to roll down the tubes of the kidney and bladder system. When that stone is securely fixed to the wall of the kidney system, you have no symptoms. If the stone breaks free, boy, oh, boy will you feel it!
That crystallized boulder rolls downstream sending shockwaves of pain through your back and groin.
Question: Can ketosis CAUSE you to pass kidney stones?
That’s a trick question. It certainly disrupts your body’s chemical balance which can lead to your existing stones melting and, in some unlucky situations, passing. Ideally, your body’s chemical shift would melt stones one element at a time without dislodging them from their current position. But this is not guaranteed.
ANTIDOTE: Don’t cheat! The best way to shake loose a bunch of kidney stones is to go in and out of ketosis a lot. The shift from making the stones to melting the stones unsettles your system.
If you have no stones in your kidney, then you are fine. You won’t make new stones while on ketosis. If you have a crop of growing kidney stones and don’t know it, beware. If you know you have kidney stones because you have had troubles in the past, you need to commit to this shift in chemistry and stay in ketosis. Pray that the stone melts in an orderly and smooth way.
If you are worried about a kidney stone as you transition to a ketogenic diet, consider adding ketone supplements to MAKE SURE you stay in ketosis as you figure out the rules. Ketone supplements, also called exogenous ketones, keep your chemistry on the side of melting kidney stones while you work on the habits of keeping those carbohydrates less than 20 per day. Be sure to add exogenous ketones every 4 hours if you choose this plan. These supplements are a solid bridge to temporary ketosis, but they only last 4 hours. My favorite way to take them is to mix them with cream and ice in a small glass and sip it over several hours. It tastes good as I add a steady stream of ketones.
Finally, stay hydrated. A dry kidney is a painful kidney. Never is this truer than when dealing with kidney stones.
GOUT
- THIS PROBLEM AFFECTS PATIENTS: 2-4 after their first ketone is made
- THIS PROBLEM LASTS UNTIL: the rapid weight loss stops
If you’ve ever had a gout attack, pay attention to this section. Gout happens when waste products crystallize within the body’s joints and produce pain when those crystals start to move.
Ketosis significantly reduces your body’s inflammation. It causes your body to adjust. One of those adjustments can involve gout crystals getting dislodged from inside your joints-a gout attack.
Don’t let a history of gout stop you from a keto diet. Gout crystals formed because of the food you ate years ago. Diets high in carbohydrates combined with fatty meat sparked the problem in your joints. When you switch to a high-fat-low-carb diet, the inflammation drops and the process begins to reverse. As the crystals dissolve, the burden on your joints lessens. But the moment too many crystals move at once, you may spark a gout attack.
Not everybody with a history of gout suffers a flare on this keto diet. If you’ve had attacks in your past, you need this lifestyle change more than others. Those crystals hiding in your joints are just a barometer, an indicator, of all the things that have slowly gone wrong deep inside your system. Your high-carb, high-insulin lifestyle has led to gout. Believe it or not, gout crystals are produced by the body as a quick fix. The body stuffs joints full of these extra crystals for storage to prevent your blood from becoming toxic with excess uric acid.
Your body will store these crystals into every joint possible unless somehow you tip the scales back the other direction. Bathing your system in ketones will reduce insulin and inflammation. This process also dissolves gout crystals. The process of melting such buildup can result in a painful gout flare.
Antidote: Keep your probenecid or your colchicine around. And of course, stay hydrated.
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I happened to run across your video and listened to you discuss the Ketogenic diet. I have been on and off it for years. I have AFib (usually once a year) and I get leery after a while because I’m afraid my electrolytes might be off. That’s when I go off and eat other healthy foods which eventually makes me go off the diet. I started putting a pinch of sea salt in all the glasses of water I drink. I ended up in the hospital ER because I sensed something wasn’t right. I didn’t go fully into AFib but every so often . .as if my body was fighting back. The doctor and nurse had never seen a patient do that. When I asked him if it were possible that my water with sea salt may have been the reason, he thought for a few moments and said “Possibly.” When I saw your video you mentioned epsom salt foot baths to replenish magnesium . . . . and then it hit me. The epsom salt with the sea salt could keep my electrolytes up. Now, I believe I can stay on Keto indefinitely. (I had a heart attack in 2015 and had one valve and 2 stents put in via the TAVR method . . . yay, no surgery!). Then I heard you mention liverwurst is good for you, and that did it for me. The one food I always missed was liverwurst. I now put equal parts cream cheese and liverwurst together and eat it with celery (thanks to you). There is nothing now that I wish I could eat! Thank you for that video, it is what helped me over the top.
Dear Dr. Boz,
I found your page and am puzzled about the comment “THIS PROBLEM LASTS UNTIL: the rapid weight loss stops.”. I went on low carb a year ago, dirty keto about half a year ago and strict keto about 3 months ago (generous amounts of meat and dairy fat but not carnivore). I’ve seen a lot of improvement but my uric acid went up and has been on the high side for the whole year. I’ve been losing 2-3 pounds a month ever since going low carb, but why should uric acid stay high for such a long time? I haven’t found any reference to lipid cells storing uric acid [crystals], and dissolving gout crystals would keep uric acid high but shouldn’t increase it over the baseline, no?
Any connection to oxalates maybe, as keto diet often contains high oxalate food like almonds?
Best, Thomas
Thomas,
I hope you were watching last night, But if not here is a replay.
I think you will enjoy the first answer.
https://youtu.be/osOUMEqGo2s
Just passed my first stone/crystal while on Keto for the past 6 weeks, so like everyone else I googled Keto, acidic perhaps. Then I found this site and Dr Boz and her assessment of cause and effect. Two weeks ago I had a tremendous sharp pain, lower left abdomen for three nights and thought I had pulled a muscle. Tried everything, nothing worked, even put an electric massager on the point of pain which seem to help. And, then…two day later, brown urine, two days in a row. I’m convince the direct vibration had an effect on what I now believe was a stone’s attempt to pass on to the bladder. Sounds strange but perhaps plausible considering positive outcome Well today I have now passed a larger crystal/stone via the ureteral route hence my purpose today to find an expert online. I know that fatty diets are acidic as in gout, et al and suddenly questioned the wisdom of Keto’s and it’s side effects. Dr. Box thank for your very well researched your mini thesis on Keto’s benefits and the dangers of dehydration. I will pay attention to whatever you have to say on this topic,
Glad you liked it. Happy you found some help!